What is you preferred internet-browser?

Firefox - but looking to change for something lighter on resources but needs to have sync option.
Chromium for watching Prime/Netflix etc.
Discovered Luakit - trying to learn as i noted is very lightweight for resources.
cracauer@ said:
They bash Apple both for not allowing other app stores or sideloading and they don't like the webkit-only rule on IOS either. If Apple doesn't voluntarily change there is a good chance laws will be coming. In South Korea, too.
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Oh, and USB-C too ! And it would be nice to have itunes so i could easy swap my playlist without using w10/w11 but this one is a bit of a dream ....
 
dawnviolet49 said:
… I'm excited for the Ladybird browser, but that won't come until 2026 though.
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bsduck said:
… www/ladybird. I'll give it a try...
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1727577344901.pngNo activity on FreeBSD toolchain bug 276703 since it was opened in February. I'm building now to tell whether it's still valid.
 
Firefox, use 90% of the time
Epiphany, not powerful hardware
Librewolf, collage and good security
Brave, "i need a chromium browser" moment
Edge, for web development (collage)
Tor browser, for EXTREME security
 
bsduck said:
… www/ladybird. I'll give it a try...
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Cath O'Deray said:
I'm building now
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More specifically, I temporarily commented out the BROKEN_FreeBSD_15_amd64 line.

Build succeeded, Ladybird installed on FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT, AMD64.

Reverted, for consistency with the ports tree:

Code: 
% grep BROKEN /usr/local/poudriere/ports/default/www/ladybird/Makefile
BROKEN_FreeBSD_15_amd64=        clang crashes, see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=276703
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My first attempts to build www/ladybird were blocked by multimedia/ffmpeg build failures, which I had been ignoring for weeks, maybe months.

There's now an ffmpeg-specific local workaround for what seems to be an LLVM issue, but it's not ideal.
 
kpedersen said:
Honestly? Out of the feasible ones for today's web, I dislike them all.

Even Firefox which is potentially the less creepy out of the sh*tty bunch has obnoxious default settings such as:
  • Recommend extensions as you browse
  • Recommend features as you browse
  • Block dangerous and deceptive content
  • Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla
All justifications for giving you a trackable fingerprint and renting this to ad-providers. Even if you turn all this off, there is still so much traffic heading straight to Mozilla's servers.

I think the technical communities should take a stand and specifically target the simpler HTML4; normalize access by browsers written by normal people (i.e netsurf, elinks, etc) and never go back to where we are now.

Even these forums would ideally be replaced with something that simple community projects like netsurf can render.

</rant> <---- I should stop using that tag too since it isn't in the HTML4 standard!
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Mozilla actively involved in unrelated political activity, with so much money to found firefox as it already is, and beyond even if they rejected google's money.
 
freezr said:
We do not have many options, we have 4 classes of browsers:
  1. TUI browsers that for definition cannot display HTML(5) properly; they cannot at all display CSS or interact with JS.
  2. GUI Browsers, mostly based on WebKitGTK (Midori, Badwolf) or WebKitQT, that are unable to render properly modern HTML5
  3. Mozilla Browsers Family, the only viable alternative to the Chromium based browsers; recently is struggling on handling JS.
  4. Chromium Based Browsers: Chrome, Edge, Vivaldi, Brave which are available only on Win, Mac and Linux but Chromium which is shipped without Google APIs...
I recently alternate across Firefox, Badwolf and Sea Monkey on FreeBSD and OpenBSD but hardware acceleration on both is a shit! I put my daughter playing on PBSKids on my FreeBSD and the CPU was exploding and animation and sound sluggish...

I do not really care I would bury modern HMTL for ever... ?
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Is not WebKit, Firefox Quantom, and Chromium the three options of GUI Browsers?
 
Truupe said:
I would say the one that gives me the least amount of grief when browsing a specific website. Having said that, the state of the "web" is horrible these days especially on mobile devices. My phone or tablet is large enough to handle desktop format but sites insist on pushing crapped up mobile formats that make the browsing experience horrific especially with all the embedded ads or pop ups. And web browsers (desktop or mobile) seem to go through cycles where they all "work" for a period and then they all diverge where they don't work. Lately I find that Chrome can't handle certain websites where Firefox can....or vice versa. And for specifically Microsoft sites like xbox.com, I resort to **blech** Edge.
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At least you can force them to use desktop format, you know in the browser's settings.
 
wolffnx said:
I agree, the problem is not the browsers, is the evolution of the web , I really wish to use light browsers like midori, but most of the pages are terrible rendered and looks ugly
and yeah, some sites works with firefox..others with chrome , from a blank page to everything rendered out of place(buttons,images,etc)
so..big/bloated develop frameworks are the cancer of the web to me and no one is taking care of follow a standar,is a big big mess
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It is because web apps are the incarnation of the devil.
escape said:
DuckDuckGo (privacy matters).
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They are a fraud.
cracauer@ said:
They bash Apple both for not allowing other app stores or sideloading and they don't like the webkit-only rule on IOS either. If Apple doesn't voluntarily change there is a good chance laws will be coming. In South Korea, too.
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I am just good enough of the EU.
Also what kind of totalitarian state likes "sideloading"?
 
www/falkon-qtonly
This seems to be working OK for me while trying to transition away from Mozilla.

Its a shame Port Flavors fall flat on thier face. No way to document them. I had the same trouble with EDK2 ports.
pkg install falkon-qtonly
 
Firefox. Everywhere; FreeBSD, linux, windows, mobile. I tried to use falkon recently to have pure KDE desktop but went back to firefox afterwards.
 
Phishfry said:
www/falkon-qtonly
This seems to be working OK for me while trying to transition away from Mozilla.

Its a shame Port Flavors fall flat on thier face. No way to document them. I had the same trouble with EDK2 ports.
pkg install falkon-qtonly
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Just installed it. The build broke on gstreamer1-plugins with no clear cause, so that's a binary pkg install. It looks good but how can I increase the (qt5?) font size? I can't read the adress bar...
 
While apache24 is running on FreeBSD, the users of the systems are on desktop Windoze and apple. Mobile users on iPads and Androids phones an tablets. So I have to make sure things work "OK" on Safari. Chrome is the preferred browser. Edge is use at your own peril. FireFox has best debugger, but, it's a bit quirky on rendering, particularly with the size of text boxes vs. the others. The web pages are littered with "Which browser a I on". I suspect this is more about my limits ability to design webs pages, but it's a real concern.
So I'll answer Chrome.
Recently the county I'm in was in the market for a new Computer Aided Dispatch system(CAD becuase everyone likes acronyms that have different meanings in different settings). All of the offerings were cloud hosted and web based. All the companies said they design for Chrome and do their best to make it work on iPads and iPhones.
My main complained with all browsers and the people who make them is we are being locked into a world where you must have Internet access for anything to work. So home automation, which wants to work when there is no internet, is rough. Systems for First Responders that need to work when cellular data is down is rough. There are many other issues that highlight these limits and the direction of the browser world. But I've typed enough for now.
 
eepete said:
While apache24 is running on FreeBSD, the users of the systems are on desktop Windoze and apple. Mobile users on iPads and Androids phones an tablets. So I have to make sure things work "OK" on Safari. Chrome is the preferred browser. Edge is use at your own peril. FireFox has best debugger, but, it's a bit quirky on rendering, particularly with the size of text boxes vs. the others. The web pages are littered with "Which browser a I on". I suspect this is more about my limits ability to design webs pages, but it's a real concern.
So I'll answer Chrome.
Recently the county I'm in was in the market for a new Computer Aided Dispatch system(CAD becuase everyone likes acronyms that have different meanings in different settings). All of the offerings were cloud hosted and web based. All the companies said they design for Chrome and do their best to make it work on iPads and iPhones.
My main complained with all browsers and the people who make them is we are being locked into a world where you must have Internet access for anything to work. So home automation, which wants to work when there is no internet, is rough. Systems for First Responders that need to work when cellular data is down is rough. There are many other issues that highlight these limits and the direction of the browser world. But I've typed enough for now.
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I totally hear you. We're still trying to get a rollover internet in place where I work. For now we have a hotspot on cellular data. We only have two apps that run on the local network but they are browser based as well. I've actually had to take things down on paper at times it's crazy. Browser based isn't the issue it's Internet connected services. To make things worse we have VoIP in place of copper lines now.
 
drr said:
Firefox. Everywhere; FreeBSD, linux, windows, mobile. I tried to use falkon recently to have pure KDE desktop but went back to firefox afterwards.
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I'm Firefox on desktop, but the only ingenious browser for smartphones is Sleipnir.
Sleipnir is literally the cleverest UX design app with mobile users in mind. You can open/close/go_back/go_forward pages just by flicking your thumb on the screen.
Sleipnir literally makes my browsing be literally done with just one thumb, literally.
Sleipnir has a full wide screen option that I use at all times because you get ALL of the screen real estate.
Sleipnir has an in-built dark mode that's so lightning fast and so well designed.
You can organize open tabs with an in-built tab manager that's very easy and clever.
Your UI is completely customizeable, and you can have floating buttons/menus.
It's literally the only way I can use the web on the cell phone. It's like I merge with internet and do not spend time navigating at all. I become internet. So cool.
 
Playing with www/dooble which I never heard of before reading about it on this forum last year.
TBH I am quite surprised how well it works, there is not a full list of feature of course but just the minimum needed to go online and I like that.
I've tested it on browseraudit and got the same result as www/firefox.

Otherwise I usually use www/firefox on desktop and www/qutebrowser on laptop.

Firefox tends to grow more and more year after year, I wonder where it is going and frankly I don't like that so I looked at his forks like www/librewolf and floorp.
Not really convinced by the work done in librewolf honestly, removed telemetry and enhanced privacy it's okay but I don't know if it worth making a fork for that, I can be wrong I don't know nothing about their work, this is just my impression as an end-user.

Floorp on the other hand feels different, I tried it on Windows10, it brings something new on the table, side bar with vertical tabs, kind of new look and I think they use the esr version of firefox. TBH the browser feels snappier than the original, I don't know what's they've done exactly but it seems better than firefox after few hours of use.

Qutebrowser is a breath of fresh air on laptop, fast and light. While browsing the internet with a mouse is convenient (especially on desktop) on my laptop I don't really need more than that, so I am glad that browser is available on FreeBSD.
 
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