It's still ZFS, regardless of where it came from.I hope when ZoL become the default ZFS, upgrade of earlier installation will be possible without risk or need of manual conversion of file system, etc.
It's still ZFS, regardless of where it came from.I hope when ZoL become the default ZFS, upgrade of earlier installation will be possible without risk or need of manual conversion of file system, etc.
There are several linux distros such as devuan, slackware, gentoo, apline linux, etc. that don't use systemd so ZOL developers will have to keep this in mind.
A: You are forgetting a whole lot of other companies that are funding Linux work. And I'm not sure I agree with your list; Microsoft doesn't contribute all that much, compared to the others.Nowadays, the Linux ecosystem is clearly ruled by IBM, Intel and Microsoft, ...
That as always been the case, since the early days of Linus and Alan Cox. A very small set of people make the decisions, the others do the work. Don't like it? Go work on something else.This implies that anyone joining a Linux project must agree to shut up and obey.
Don't like it? Go work on something else.
gentoo and Alpine are niche OS...
It's an interesting question. Can you create a zpool without new features so it is compatible between linux and bsd ?
Good old Linus, always shooting from the hip without aiming. Fortunately, the Linux ecosystem has a lot of sensible people capable of making good decisions, in spite of what the guru says. Unfortunately, there are a lot of Linus fanboys who think everything he says is gospel.
Am I right to understand that you and the legions of "sensible people capable of making good decisions" in the Linux ecosystem (hereafter collectively referred to as "Red Hat" ) are going to fork the Linux kernel ?
You think the Guru has gone cuckoo so why do you still follow the Guru? I don't see any non sequitur.Another non sequitur.
We don't really care whether ZoL is merged into Linux or not.
Oh, and screw OpenBSD and their opinions on operating system design.
I am in no position to do that, as I am not a Linux kernel decision maker. But I know a little bit about storage and file systems, and if you think about it for a while, you will find that ZFS has great advantages, which Linus happens to ignore in his rant. I hope that the better mousetrap will eventually succeed in the marketplace, and ZFS will be fully supported on some Linux distribution and in the kernel. I've explained why I think ZFS is good several times on this forum; in a nutshell: built in RAID (which much shorter MTTR, which translates directly into higher durability), complete on-disk checksum coverage, support for multiple RAID levels and relatively dynamic transition between them, and a mostly workable user interfaces (sometimes a little wonky, sometimes missing a few features, but better than everything else that's free).Am I right to understand that you and the legions of "sensible people capable of making good decisions" in the Linux ecosystem (hereafter collectively referred to as "Red Hat" ) are going to fork the Linux kernel ?
A: Systemd has nothing to do with ZFS. You can use both, one of them, or neither. If you use both, you can integrate them somewhat, but you don't have to.It makes sense since Systemd (hereafter referred to the "1.5M line chaos") has failed big time.
If ZFS becomes unusable for lack of maintenance or platform, I would have to migrate my home server to another file system. While painful (it would take several weekends), that's perfectly possible. And given that I have friends in the storage industry, I would probably end up with a technically good solution, even if it requires buying licenses. There are other good file systems, but they are not free, but you can find them.
No. The code was merged so they can work together. FreeBSD had ZFS long before they did. It's a matter of combined forces, not them supporting us.Zol offical have merge code to support FreeBSD?
C: Does this mean that I like systemd, or like its creator Lennart, or think that he is an upstanding person or good software designer and engineer? Hell no. I don't like working with systemd, I think Lennart is a sociopath, and his idea of software design is to pile his old solutions on each other and ignore other people and real-world requirements. But for better or worse, the result works well enough, and is taking over. Having an apoplexy over it won't make it go away, and lying and spreading fake news really won't help.
The largest Linux distribution by far is Android, and they do not use systemd. The largest desktop distribution is probably Chromeos (Certainly in the US. I can't find worldwide figures), and they use upstart. I seriously doubt projects like Openwrt or DD-WRT will ever adopt it. So where is it "succeeding"? Arguably on the server, which is deliciously ironic since the original rationale for hatching the monstrosity was to reduce boot times, presumably on machines where someone cares because they're waiting at the console.B: The claim that systemd has failed is ludicrous. It is the default init system on the largest Linux distribution (measured by installed paying customers, not kids with their laptops in dorm rooms). Matter-of-fact, I use it all the time, I have written services for it, and it is perfectly workable. My fear is that systemd is succeeding too well, and will take over the market for init systems so completely (simply because it is better) that we will lose intellectual diversity.
That being said, I find the assertion "works well enough" quite ironic being posted on the forum of an OS who has rarely accepted that same idea. I have various technical objections to systemd such that I will not use it unless paid rather large sums of money. I will also note that many people often use what they are fed, rather than what they might know is better, and there's no changing basic behavior of the common human.
So, on the practical side of things, are we going to see native encryption in ZFS on FreeBSD any time soon? Or never, for some license-related reasons?
It is interesting how you can have technical objections to a system like systemd, yet you claim that you will not use it unless paid "rather large sums of money". How can you have technical objections (as opposed to political / ideological objections) to a system if you have not used it? Baffles my mind.