Worst computer hardware feature you have seen?

You may want to take a multimeter to that supply and write down what line holds what voltage, so you can retool a standard supply later on. Doing so after it had the magic smoke escape is a lot more trouble.
Unfortunately, the physical connectors of those are non-standard and not available in (consumer) markets. Once any of the connectors is physically broken with unrepairable way, no way to fix it other than sending it to "official" repair services.
 
Any laptops with dGPU but has no option to disable iGPU on BIOS/firmware menu.
Even worse, (not sure by which vendor it was sold) some cannot work with internal display panel when iGPU is disabled (usable only on external monitor).
 
Sorry I must correct myself. The Tyan Tiger was the first upgrade. I built the Antec 3U chassis with a SuperMicro P6DGE with 440 BX chipset that I later upgraded with Slockets.
Then upgraded to Tyan.

But yea I second Toms sentiment.
Optimus Sucks. You think they would sell a Mobile CPU without Integrated Graphics since they have so many SKU's..
Utter waste of power in a platform you least need the drain. Battery powered.
 
Where to start. I look back to the good ergonomic design and engineering of the classic IBM (pre-lenovo) thinkpads and despair. The whole crazy cult of thinness. Now we have a horrible small cramped keyboard jammed up near the screen and a vast touchpad thing with acres of wasted space on either side. The travel on the keys is so small you can hardly bear to type on it (I tried an M2 macbook pro recently, ugh). No RJ45 ethernet socket, you have to use a bloody dongle. Removal of as many usb sockets as possible, so you end up with 'extenders' trailing over the desk attached by bits of cable. Soldered on RAM chips. Glued together cases that can't be taken apart. Chips lifting off circuilt boards with heat, a la Louis Rossmann. Sockets soldered directly to motherboard instead of being on easily replacable small daughter cards, so that when the socket inevitably breaks, it's time to buy another machine. Crap ergonomics, thinness, lousy reliability, intended to break after a couple of years. The horrible membrane case/keyboard thing they gave you with the surface. I could go on...

All of which tells me these machines are not designed to be used for real work, instead they are designed to be disposable fashion accessories. After a couple of years, they are e-waste.

I guess it sells, though.
 
Where to start. I look back to the good ergonomic design and engineering of the classic IBM (pre-lenovo) thinkpads and despair. The whole crazy cult of thinness. Now we have a horrible small cramped keyboard jammed up near the screen and a vast touchpad thing with acres of wasted space on either side. The travel on the keys is so small you can hardly bear to type on it (I tried an M2 macbook pro recently, ugh). No RJ45 ethernet socket, you have to use a bloody dongle. Removal of as many usb sockets as possible, so you end up with 'extenders' trailing over the desk attached by bits of cable. Soldered on RAM chips. Glued together cases that can't be taken apart. Chips lifting off circuilt boards with heat, a la Louis Rossmann. Sockets soldered directly to motherboard instead of being on easily replacable small daughter cards, so that when the socket inevitably breaks, it's time to buy another machine. Crap ergonomics, thinness, lousy reliability, intended to break after a couple of years. The horrible membrane case/keyboard thing they gave you with the surface. I could go on...

All of which tells me these machines are not designed to be used for real work, instead they are designed to be disposable fashion accessories. After a couple of years, they are e-waste.

I guess it sells, though.
Wow! I didn't know lenovo made Apple products! ;)
 
Any laptops with dGPU but has no option to disable iGPU on BIOS/firmware menu.
Even worse, (not sure by which vendor it was sold) some cannot work with internal display panel when iGPU is disabled (usable only on external monitor).
Muxless I think. I would prefer having a hardware mux or everything wired to dGPU, but I've only seen muxless and generally was fine (power saving fine Windows, and fine Linux with nouveau pre-Turing D3 stuff). I've only ever had gaming laptops like this, was plugged-in most of the time, and preferred NVIDIA's I think non-reverse prime thing and just throwing all rendering on the dGPU :p (had lowest latency and least amount of pci/power mess for max perf)

Interestingly I've seen a dual-graphics Alienware laptop where you can't disable the NVIDIA dGPU nor use the Intel iGPU directly even though the iGPU shows as a display adapter (built-in display and HDMI port are dGPU-wired); it's conveinent but odd :p
 
Muxless I think. I would prefer having a hardware mux or everything wired to dGPU, but I've only seen muxless and generally was fine (power saving fine Windows, and fine Linux with nouveau pre-Turing D3 stuff). I've only ever had gaming laptops like this, was plugged-in most of the time, and preferred NVIDIA's I think non-reverse prime thing and just throwing all rendering on the dGPU :p (had lowest latency and least amount of pci/power mess for max perf)

Interestingly I've seen a dual-graphics Alienware laptop where you can't disable the NVIDIA dGPU nor use the Intel iGPU directly even though the iGPU shows as a display adapter (built-in display and HDMI port are dGPU-wired); it's conveinent but odd :p
I have an Asus ROG Zephyrus G14, an AMD Advantage laptop that supposedly does have a mux, and a dGPU (Radeon RX 6700M). It functions just like that Alienware laptop, BTW. If not for the N-Key keyboard not being supported under FreeBSD, it would have been my daily driver.
 
Surprised no one mentioned this:
Intel Management Engine and its successor, basically a backdoor into every system. Microsoft's Pluton processor (included in AMD & ARM processors), a "security" processor enabling remote access for hardware & software manufacturers (since they obviously are better suited to "secure" your system than you are). Not sure about the remote hackability of the AMD PSP.

I guess that creating OSes that treat its users as a product wasn't enough. Now hardware has to "fix" that gap for people who have the audacity to install something better.
Simply put: there is no need for a second processor, core or chip that has access to LAN (or other communication) ports ever aside from the BIOS.

Too bad FreeBSD is dropping i386 support, at least those systems didn't systematically included backdoors - as far as I remember :)

I was going to add USB-C second because it's not 1/1 reversible, requiring a separate chip for it to work but after checking Wikipedia I'm sure my memory recall isn't good enough to really comment on it. I did have gripes with it after the first versions, not sure if they're fixed or I misread the pin assignments back then.
 
Surprised no one mentioned this:
Intel Management Engine and its successor, basically a backdoor into every system. Microsoft's Pluton processor (included in AMD & ARM processors), a "security" processor enabling remote access for hardware & software manufacturers (since they obviously are better suited to "secure" your system than you are). Not sure about the remote hackability of the AMD PSP.
I feel like the notion that the ME is a backdoor is (mostly) a conspiracy theory. Many people (including me) screen their internet connection with whatever they have like a firewall or something, and have not noticed weird connections. I think it id a terrible design, which combined with RMS and his tinfoil-hat-brigade, has spooked people. That said, I think it is a security vulnerability, but not a secret NSA plot.
 
Surprised no one mentioned this:
Intel Management Engine and its successor, basically a backdoor into every system. Microsoft's Pluton processor (included in AMD & ARM processors), a "security" processor enabling remote access for hardware & software manufacturers (since they obviously are better suited to "secure" your system than you are). Not sure about the remote hackability of the AMD PSP.
I feel like the notion that the ME is a backdoor is a conspiracy theory. Many people (including me) screen their internet connection with whatever they have like a firewall or something, and have not noticed weird connections. I think it id a terrible design, which combined with RMS and his tinfoil-hat-brigade, has spooked people. That said, I think it is a security vulnerability, but not a secret NSA plot
 
malavon : Well, there's the so-called LoongArch and CheriBSD, you can look into those if you're concerned about backdoors.

RetroComputingCollector : When looking for 'weird connections', do you even know what to look for, what tools to use, how to set them up (they are in ports, BTW!), and how to interpret the information they provide? RMS did spook people, true. But for a random rank-and-file user, the chances of getting in trouble over something they had no clue about - they are pretty small. The days of rampaging like a mad dog and biting everybody in sight (remember MPAA or SCO or even Oracle debacles?) are in the past. Even the PATRIOT Act expired 5 years ago. And - RMS is an alumnus of MIT, y'know. He may be a strange and eccentric guy whose social skills could stand improvement, but he does know something about how a program is supposed to interact with metal, to a much greater extent than rank-and-file users like us.
 
Thanks for the advice, I will look into tools in ports instead of using router-based software, but I definetly don't think I'm important enough to be spied on by the NSA, even if they are, what do they have to find, and if it's private analytics, they already know everything about me and I've given up in that regard!
 
I feel like the notion that the ME is a backdoor is (mostly) a conspiracy theory. Many people (including me) screen their internet connection with whatever they have like a firewall or something, and have not noticed weird connections. I think it id a terrible design, which combined with RMS and his tinfoil-hat-brigade, has spooked people. That said, I think it is a security vulnerability, but not a secret NSA plot.
TBF, the actual (easily accessible) backdoor is the AMT module of the ME, and on decent hardware that crap (as well as the whole network stack of the ME) can be disabled.
Other parts like PTT or BootGuard/SecureBoot are also as useful as a hole in the head, but they usually also can be disabled.

Of course this doesn't change the fact that the underlying idea and design of the ME is flawed, utter BS and a general security threat...
 
I feel like the notion that the ME is a backdoor is (mostly) a conspiracy theory. Many people (including me) screen their internet connection with whatever they have like a firewall or something, and have not noticed weird connections.
You won't. It has full access to the TCP/IP stack and can send packets independently of the OS - bypassing any firewall.

It also has full access to memory.

Before you denounce its critics as "tinfoil hat", consider well what place this kind of tech has on a personal computer.

Also take into account that it is deliberately implemented in a way that it cannot be disabled by the user.

One method of disabling it, setting boolean value reserve_hap to 1, is undocumented and refers to the NSA's High Assurance Platform. In other words, government agencies won't enable this crap - it's for everyone else...
 
Also take into account that it is deliberately implemented in a way that it cannot be disabled by the user.
It's a bit of a whack-a-mole game. Eventually people figure out how to disable it in new versions of the Intel firmware...only to have to do it again for the next version.

Note that blackhole is correct, there's no way to disable it completely. It's always active during boot.

I keep meaning to mess with the Dasharo firmware now that I have an MSI board. Maybe this'll motivate me:
 
For me its ANY of the laptop keyboards. I'm an IBM model-M man...anything else falls short.
and why don't they make uber-sized laptops anymore. I have a 15 year old gateway with a hugemongous display and I haven't seen anything even half its size in years.
What even a Tosh T3200?
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I would say that the worst laptop feature I've seen is the Lead-Acid battery in the Macintosh Portable. Whoever thought of putting a car battery in a computer is an evil, evil person.
That sounds pretty cool if the batteries would be conveniently as-replaceable as ripping apart a car battery if I needed to (and didn't just have a 120V inverter or something :p)
 
Talking of batteries... I saw a review of the latest macbook M4 air a few days ago. The battery is GLUED IN with double sided adhesive pads. If you want to replace the battery, back to the shop it goes, and you pay 169 UK pounds to replace a 10 dollar part. Ker-ching!:oops:
 
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