Upgraded from freebsd 14.1 to 14.2 Gnome fails

tony33

tony33

So, I just last week upgraded Freebsd 14.1 to 14.2. I restarted the computer and followed the installation instructions.

Finished the installation and then shutdown the computer. 3 days ago used the computer and everything worked fine and I was working on my sshd setting up a key.

Now today I boot the computer and now I get a oops screen that something went wrong with gnome. I have the latest production version. gnome42.

I reinstalled the package gnome-desktop. It still doesn't work. I checked the messages logs and it doesn't show any errors related to gnome or gdm.

I am at a lost as to what the issue is. I can still use Ctrl alt and F1 to load up the terminal and the computer works fine without the desktop GUI. I just prefer to use gnome for the desktop GUI.

What should I look at to narrow down the possible issues?
 
tony33 said:
What should I look at to narrow down the possible issues?
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Unfortunately your system may be effectively bricked (?) until the package management system becomes fixed.
There's been much package rebuilding over the past week, but it seems not quite solved.
There's plenty of messages and fine grained details elsewhere in the forum.
HTH
 
tony33 said:
What should I look at to narrow down the possible issues?
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It sounds like Xorg is not working properly. From that, the logical place to look would be GPU drivers.

In FreeBSD, GPU drivers are a prerequisite for a working Xorg. So, make sure the GPU drivers match the FreeBSD version. This means that the GPU drivers need to come from the repo for 14.2-RELEASE, not from the repo for 14.1-RELEASE. If the packages for your GPU are difficult to install using the pkg install command, try compiling them from ports if you know how to do that.

Once basic Xorg works, then any DE will work fine.

So, to repeat: The first thing to check here is that the GPU drivers work correctly. Meaning, that amdgpu, i915, or correct nvidia driver - they should be from the correct repo, and visible via kldstat.

bgroper : No, the system is definitely not bricked - OP can use the command line. THAT does not require a GPU driver.
 
astyle said:
bgroper : No, the system is definitely not bricked - OP can use the command line. THAT does not require a GPU driver.
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I agree. "Bricked" is technically an overstatement, since the cli still works.
But for any user who relies upon a GUI to get their daily work done, it is effectively bricked until the updates are fixed.
 
fff2024g said:
please hold some time. the gnome packages was built in time. most people got the same problem.
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So, it's the gnome system that the code needs to be fixed?

I can run startx and get a very plain gui old school look and that runs fine. However, I am using terminal for now.
I just want to know .. if it's on the programmers end and I just need to wait until they fix it.
Thanks for letting me know. That why I can go back to working on getting my sshd to work with my keys. Which is what I was doing
but out of nowhere the gnome system caused issues and I know I didn't touch anything. I then went from working on getting my keys to work to now
trying to figure out why gnome doesn't work anymore.
 
tony33 said:
You could try to use the command hit Ctrl Alt and f1 and then login and then type command
Code: 
startx
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Once startx works, and you can actually see the basic Xorg/TWM on your screen, that's when you know it's time to configure a login manager like SDDM or XDM. But first things first, is startx working for you?
 
astyle said:
Once startx works, and you can actually see the basic Xorg/TWM on your screen, that's when you know it's time to configure a login manager like SDDM or XDM. But first things first, is startx working for you?
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Yes, startx loads up and old looking GUI interface with 2 looking terminal and an old style clock.

SirDice said:
Only one single application; games/gnome-chess is failing, which causes games/gnome-games to be skipped, which causes the "full" flavor of x11/gnome to skip. The "lite" flavor should be fine as it doesn't include games/gnome-games.
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So, I should install the gnome light version?
 
tony33 said:
So, I should install the gnome light version?
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Yeah, pretty much. The x11/gnome is a meta-package anyway. It will try to pull in a LOT of related packages, just because they are listed as dependencies, even if they are not completely ready in the repo. It's kind of like having a guest list for a party - just because somebody is on your guest list and you can call them, that's not a guarantee that they can actually make it to the party.

BTW, for GNOME, if you want to install a 'light' version, I think the correct packages to pick would be x11/gnome-shell and x11/gdm. I'm not completely sure about x11/gnome-shell (Because I'm firmly in the KDE camp). But x11/gdm is something I'm completely confident in recommending. You'll still need to enable GDM as per the Handbook, Section 8.2.2, GNOME.

Well, if you run pkg search gnome-lite and it's available, you can try installing that from pkg...
Code: 
astyle@thinkbook:~ $ pkg search gnome-lite
gnome-lite-42_6                The "meta-port" of the GNOME desktop slimmed down for only the basics

Hope this helps.
 
SirDice said:
Only one single application; games/gnome-chess is failing, which causes games/gnome-games to be skipped, which causes the "full" flavor of x11/gnome to skip. The "lite" flavor should be fine as it doesn't include games/gnome-games.
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astyle said:
Yeah, pretty much. The x11/gnome is a meta-package anyway. It will try to pull in a LOT of related packages, just because they are listed as dependencies, even if they are not completely ready in the repo. It's kind of like having a guest list for a party - just because somebody is on your guest list and you can call them, that's not a guarantee that they can actually make it to the party.

BTW, for GNOME, if you want to install a 'light' version, I think the correct packages to pick would be x11/gnome-shell and x11/gdm. I'm not completely sure about x11/gnome-shell (Because I'm firmly in the KDE camp). But x11/gdm is something I'm completely confident in recommending. You'll still need to enable GDM as per the Handbook, Section 8.2.2, GNOME.

Well, if you run pkg search gnome-lite and it's available, you can try installing that from pkg...
Code: 
astyle@thinkbook:~ $ pkg search gnome-lite
gnome-lite-42_6                The "meta-port" of the GNOME desktop slimmed down for only the basics

Hope this helps.
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I tried this and there's no gnome-light. There's only gnome-desktop and gnome-shell
 
This is because you typed in the package name incorrectly. Please make a note of the spelling in my code snippet, and copy-paste from that:

Code: 
astyle@thinkbook:~ $ pkg search gnome-lite
gnome-lite-42_6                The "meta-port" of the GNOME desktop slimmed down for only the basics

The package to look for is actually called gnome-lite. If you try to issue the command exactly as I showed you, you'll get the same results as me.

BTW, I could not find it in ports tree or on freshports, so I'm assuming it's compiled by setting some flags in existing ports.
 
astyle said:
This is because you typed in the package name incorrectly. Please make a note of the spelling in my code snippet, and copy-paste from that:

Code: 
astyle@thinkbook:~ $ pkg search gnome-lite
gnome-lite-42_6                The "meta-port" of the GNOME desktop slimmed down for only the basics

The package to look for is actually called gnome-lite. If you try to issue the command exactly as I showed you, you'll get the same results as me.

BTW, I could not find it in ports tree or on freshports, so I'm assuming it's compiled by setting some flags in existing ports.
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gnome and gnome-lite package still disappear.
 
I tried both gnome-light and gnome-lite and both don't come up. When I search gnome it gives me all the list of packages related to gnome and there's no gnome-lite. there's a gnome-desktop and gnome-shell and a gnome-shell-extensions. There's no gnome-lite.
 
tony33 said:
I tried both gnome-light and gnome-lite and both don't come up. When I search gnome it gives me all the list of packages related to gnome and there's no gnome-lite. there's a gnome-desktop and gnome-shell and a gnome-shell-extensions. There's no gnome-lite.
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Well, in that case, try installing gnome-shell and gdm.

Also, next time, please try to post the exact text of the error messages, rather than trying to summarize in your own words.
 
astyle said:
Well, in that case, try installing gnome-shell and gdm.

Also, next time, please try to post the exact text of the error messages, rather than trying to summarize in your own words.
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there was no gnome-shell ,pkg search gnome-shell , nothing ..do you know that ? the freebsd apps was maintanant. don't spent more time in this. just waiting for ..i don;t know how long .
 
fff2024g said:
there was no gnome-shell ,pkg search gnome-shell , nothing ..do you know that ? the freebsd apps was maintanant. don't spent more time in this. just waiting for ..i don;t know how long .
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Learn how to use ports, maybe? since the pkg infrastructure is all messed up...
 
Hmm... I upgraded from 14.2p2 to 14.2p3 last night and got this 'Oops' problem again. It has become a regular upgrade ritual to uninstall drm-61-kmod and reinstall drm-515-kmod to get i915 graphics working, but that didn't work this time. Fortunately, the previous ZFS boot environment returned the laptop to a useable state.
 
astyle said:
Well, in that case, try installing gnome-shell and gdm.

Also, next time, please try to post the exact text of the error messages, rather than trying to summarize in your own words.
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Well maybe if there were actual error codes I would have posted that instead. I have asked where to find such error codes. I have checked messages.log and various other logs and found nothing. i have reported what the error is and it's a screen that says oops something went wrong. That was it... and yet many here knew exactly what the issue was because other's have had the same issue. I installed gnome-shell and everything now works but the apps are missing.
 
tony33 said:
Well maybe if there were actual error codes I would have posted that instead. I have asked where to find such error codes. I have checked messages.log and various other logs and found nothing. i have reported what the error is and it's a screen that says oops something went wrong. That was it... and yet many here knew exactly what the issue was because other's have had the same issue. I installed gnome-shell and everything now works but the apps are missing.
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Normally, if you use command-line to install stuff, and get errors, there will be much more than 'oops' printed as an error message. That's what I'm after.

I would suggest that you get GDM (GNOME Display Manager) working. The Handbook gives a pretty good explanation on how to do that. The reasoning behind my suggestion - you will get a usable GUI login screen that gets you into the GNOME desktop.
 
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