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rpowell47

Since Gmail is a major risk to be hacked, what do other BSD'rs use or recommend? I'm not looking forward to carrying out a change, but I'm not looking forward to dealing with any scam/BS from people who are simply "Takers and not Givers"
 
cracauer@ said:
How is Gmail a bigger security risk than other systems?
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You mean, other than the fact that it is a Google product? LOL
Google IS spyware.

Obviously, the best solution for maintaining control is also the hardest to implement:
running your own mailserver connected to a domain and static IP that you own/control.

re - "Takers and not Givers" ... They have a pretty good metric for determining that. the ratio of poster's karma points over their number of posts and you get a pretty good idea of what others think about their participation. Anyway, think of a high ratio as something to aspire to.
 
My ISP Cox got rid of POP Mail diverting everyone to Yahoo Mail. I couldn't fathom that and fell back on my burner GMail accounts.

I finally had enough and grabbed a FastMail trial account. At this point I don't mind paying for unsnooped emails. Proton has too many features I don't need at a higher cost.

The question is can you trust them with your mail. I have nothing to hide but object to being sold.
 
Phishfry said:
I have nothing to hide but object to being sold.
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He who has nothing to hide lives a very dull life. You have no idea what you may want to have hidden now or in the past, in say 3 month? I used to say years, but recent events made me rethink this.

You can't trust a mail service that is known to copy and archive every post card you send trough it. Gmail is out, and no - I don't trust my mail provider further that it can be thrown.

cracauer@ said:
Of course. But it is not "being hacked".
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Reading that the email auto-decypts in your inbox sounds kinda scary. Does this mean what I fear? Because it sounds like goggle has the keys, and I would consider that a no-go.
 
cracauer@ said:
If you want encryption or authentication in that diverse mess that email is you either uses gpg on your own or you forget about it.
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With POP3 mail it used TLS to authenticate. But your mails are still floating around in somebody else's computer... Forget about it works.

Crivens said:
He who has nothing to hide lives a very dull life.
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I like to think I did all my exciting deeds as a younger person. I did it for the thrill. Not a professional criminal.
I was lucky enough to exist before Driving Records were digitalized. I should have many DUI but none show.

I was reminded at ships reunion that I used to keep a multicolor marker kit for faking vehicle gate passes. I was a master deceiver. Certain days of week had certain color markings..
Print blank passes and use the right marker. It wasn't hard.

Here is a hidden jem. I once stole an Uncles police badge from a coffee can of old badges.
That once tortured me as a youth because I lost it. Turned out my parents found it and returned it.

Truthfully I worry more about producing shabby work when rushed than what any personal email could provide.
My work is permanent and could affect life.

It was very interesting to review my publically accessible judicial life.

Free Public Records Search - judyrecords

Instantly search 740 million+ United States court cases.
www.judyrecords.com www.judyrecords.com
I had a bankruptcy and maybe 8 tickets. Three were reckless speeding for which I had to attend driving class to reduce points. They were closely spaced tickets.
There appears to be around 4 other people in USA named exactly the same as me with records.

Is this our social barometer? Speeding points?

I hate when people use the excuse " I have nothing to hide" but we are talking email here. I truly have nothing to hide. No reasonable expectation of privacy. But I don't want to be sold.
No ED meds, No anal warts ... Healthy and waitng to retire. Hoping nobody tries to assume my identity and ruin my life, via email.
 
I am not a professional, although I manage Cyrus with Sendmail servers myself. However, for self-hosting I would advise others to use the much simpler, albeit modern, fairly new all-in-one email server called mail/Mox. Among SAAS, one of the most advanced and privacy-friendly mail service would be Fastmail. And of the free ones, Riseup respects privacy.
 
Phishfry said:
Is this our social barometer? Speeding points?
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No. You can't know what the powers-that-are-going-to-be will frown upon. In a census close to 100 years ago nobody thought of giving his religion. Then suddenly it was vitally important to not have ticket THAT box. You don't know what you need to hide.

But we are in the same boat. We had the luxury of growing up without cell phones and data bases. If everything we did as kids would be known today, I would probably have a nice record. I surely wouldn't have gotten a security clearance. Those were the days...
 
Crivens said:
. I surely wouldn't have gotten a security clearance. Those were the days...
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Yea I had a senior petty officer tell me he was in the Navy because Judge told him Military or Jail at age 18.
Now if you have a record you can not join. Surly you will not get top schools. Depends on offenses.
I joined before the judge got me. I saw the writing on the wall. Small town no license means fail.

Think of the children?

Email is not a regulated utility. Should it be? My States DMV uses it to announce official things like vehicle registration.
Email has replaced snail mail. It used to be your license to drive would be suspended by mail notification with signature confirmation by USPS. Certified Mail.
I don't know how they do that now. Notice of Suspension received via Email? Prove that in court?
 
Phishfry said:
With POP3 mail it used TLS to authenticate. But your mails are still floating around in somebody else's computer... Forget about it works.
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It's not the connection between you and your mail-holding computer. Or the copies in various places.

The problem is that many hosts might and will be invoked to transport or short-term store your mails while in transit, and that transit can have a million different forms, including unencrypted and unauthenticated. And you have no way to control or even just to predict these methods of transport.
 
What would have been built if social media was never born. We have social ego pages but no good common communication systems.

The SecDef was using Signal Chat. We spent how much on systems and they don't have secure chat? How asleep at the wheel are they.
Using unsecure channels with all the money we spent on secure channels.....

You can have military grade encryption but the dumbest rock in the pile can ruin it.
 
cracauer@ said:
The problem is that many hosts might and will be invoked to transport or short-term store your mails while in transit, and that transit can have a million different forms, including unencrypted and unauthenticated. And you have no way to control or even just to predict these methods of transport.
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Encryption should be the solution, although the technology is old and there are two standards, it is not being used.

Well, that is a layer more over many layers updating the old email technology.
Perhaps something completely new should be invented.
 
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